Attention: FFL Dealers ONLY - SUPER DEAL on highly-desirable & better-built Egyptian Maadi ARM model (built on Soviet Machinery in a Soviet-built Military Arsenal - not by minimum-wage Mexicans in some 'Fast-Buck' Skunk Works !) for ONLY $449.95 - or do you want to PAY $450 for 'Questionable' WASR-10 'Wannabe AK's' or $570 for a Romanian M-10 - as the current Romanian 'Wannabe' AKM's DO NOT HAVE dimpled-receivers for 'proper magazine alignment' - like 'REAL AK-47s'- as this Maadi AK-47 ARM model does & for ONLY $449.95 + Shipping & Insurance - to FFL Dealers ONLY - You MUST CALL (561) 891-9699 or (720) 940-1458 - as e-mails won't get THESE BARGAINS before they Go Away SOON !!!

 

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Also have a 20 inch barrel AK - a Maadi of Egypt Soviet-Style RPK Sporter - (pictured below) FOR ONLY $549.95 + SHIPPING for FFL Dealers ONLY - Call (720) 940-1458 for MORE INFO !

Or, you buy this guy's Maadi RPK for $750:

WTS: NIB Egyptian Maadi AK-47 RPK $750

By: XXX in Westlake, Ohio

For sale NIB Egyptian Maadi AK-47 7.62x39 RPK. Laminated thumbhole stock and forearm, original manual and box. $750 (ONLY $200 HIGHER that the one we have ABOVE...) 

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Or, here's another Maadi RPM for $750 (with black stock set - below - along with FELONY 'Kit' AK Rifles' - as it's ILLEGAL to build 'Kit Guns' for RESALE - unless they were built by a Class 7 FFL 'Licensed Manufacturer' !!!) :

 

WTS: "AK Rifle Collection" (ONLY shown for illustration - as RESALE of 'Kit Guns' built by unlicensed persons is FELONY Violation of 18 USC 44 !!!) 

By: XXX in Dallas, TX
Up for sale are a few of my AK's. Shipping not included. Email for more pics. Prices are OBO.

Up for sale is a Fixed stock ALL MATCHING AK-74 Built on a Matching numbers to the kit Nodak Spud/DC Industries receiver. The wood on this kit is really nice. The finish is original to the kit and the receiver was painted to match. Included is a Bulgarian sling. It does not come with a magazine, but I have several available to the buyer. I do not know who built this rifle, but they did a good job on it. It is in 5.45x39. It is the top rifle pictured. $850

Yugo M72 milled. This was a really nice kit that was rewelded by Turbothis awhile back. The trunnion/front stub has 2 #'s on it. The topcover, buttstock, bolt carrier, and bolt head match the first #, and the recoil rod, and the sight leaf matches the 2nd # which is electro penciled on the top lug. The gas tube does not match either #. Brass case ammo tends to expand and stick in the chamber, steel case ammo works great. I don't really want to sell this, so if it does not sell in a few days I am going to keep it. $1200

Yugo M72 stamped. This was a very nice MATCHING kit that was built on a NDS/DCI receiver (nodak). It shoots great and is very acurate. It does not come with a magazine, but I have several available to the buyer. I do not know who built this rifle, but they did a good job on it. $1000

Hungarian Type 3. This was a really nice kit that was rewelded by Turbothis awhile back. It is matching except for the carrier. I have not fired this rifle. The carrier is a tight fit but the person I purchased this rifle from said that it worked. It does not come with a magazine, but I have several available to the buyer. $1200

ACC/Intrac RPM Maadi. This gun has the Y stamp. It was imported in early 1994. It has a cap on the muzzle over the threads which can be removed with a dremel. The bayonet lug still retains the ears, which where not ground off. It has a US stock set. It does not come with a magazine, but I have several available to the buyer. $775

Here's some 'Expensive Krebs Saiga Conversions' - usually OVER $1,000 - Looks Cool - but a low-priced MAK-90 is actually STRONGER & has a Better Trigger Pull !!!

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Too Bad Kel-Tec doesn't make one of these Shotguns in Semi-Auto - as the Russian Saiga 12 gauge 'REIGNS Supreme' for Now !!!

Re: I just want a cheap AK - should I buy a WASR-10 AK-47

Although Mass Marketers on the Internet & @ Gun Shows (you know who you are) seem to CARE MORE about what gun puts $$$ in their pockets the FASTEST & could give a Rat's Ass whether that's the BEST AK for you as they sell Romanian WASR-10 AK's & buyers should REALIZE they MIGHT get an WASR-10 that works just FINE - or YOU MIGHT get a TOTAL NIGHTMARE of an AK !

   Just "Google" WASR-10 & WEED THROUGH the confusing counter postings that are many times put on there by Century....

    Buyers should also take NOTICE the lack of indentations on the receiver above where the magazine (clip) goes into the rifle - as a properly-made AKM's (stamped AK-47's) SHOULD HAVE INDENTATIONS (dimples) on their receivers - see the photo & text below on the problem this presents! http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-124394.html

     If the WASR-10 functions OK w/o 'Failure to Feed' or 'Failure to extract' problems - then it's worth $500 to some retailers - as many  distributors are ALL SOLD OUT of this less-than-desirable AK-47 w/o dimples on its receiver for proper magazine alignment - as the WASR-10 tries to compensate for this with defeciency by having pieces of sheet metal welded into its magazine well - (see Google & You tube for more on issues SOME PEOPLE have with WASR-10 AK's - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6H_sw-YKOc ) !!!

    Still, besides the numerous problems that SOME have with WASR-10's - it's the LOWEST-PRICED AK-47 on the market & many Gun dealers & their 'victims' (uneducated buyers) ignore the WARRANTY NIGHTMARES that others have had with Century's WASR-10 Rifles - as some WASR-10's can be OK ?

    The problem with Century Arms - could be a gamble with your time & your $$$ (that you won't have with a Norinco MAK-90, Hungarian SA-85M, or Bulgarian SA-93, SLR-95, etc.) - because even if the WASR-10 is new & the WASR-10 has problems - you won't get a new rifle from the FFL dealer who sold it to you if the rifle has problems & if the WASR-10 is used - how much $$$ do you want to spend for a gunsmith to fix the WASR-10 if you have no warranty ???

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So, if I buy a MAK-90, could I then put a muzzle brake on the rifle and still be in compliance with 18 USC 44 Section 922(r)?

    If you thread your MAK-90 Barrel (Tap & Die cost over $50) or have a gunsmith do it - the ATF still says you must Tac-Weld or Silver Solder a new Muzzle Brake onto the MAK-90's barrel.

    Or, you can try AK47World's lower cost idea of buying a threaded muzzle brake & grinding off the threads - then smacking the de-threaded brake onto your barrel with a mallet & either use JB Weld or a Tac-Weld to keep it in place.

                                                                              Thanks from www.ak47world.com

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WTS: NIB Sealed Polytech Legend AK-47 - $2500

By: The 'Over-Priced Man' in Macon, GA
Date: 3/7/11 17:34

We have in the store and ready for immediate shipment a NIB Polytech Legend AK-47 pattern rifle chambered in 7.62x39. This is a milled receiver rifle and it comes with all factory accessories. When we say new in box, we mean that the plastic bag in which the rifle is packed in the box has not been opened. It is new enough that it comes with the cardboard box in which the factory card board box was shipped. This is absolutely as good as it gets for someone in the market for such a rifle.

For any further information, question, or additional pictures, please feel free to e-mail us or call me at:

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Bulgarian Arsenal Type 3 SLR AK47 Milled $1500 that appears to be in FELONY Violation of 18 USC 44 Section 922r STATUS !!!

   Yes that's right - you READ CORRECTLY - as the Post Ban SA-93 (Sentinel Arms 1993 import) pictured below - if it had its original thumbhole stock replaced with a detached pistol grip - still MUST have 5 U.S. Parts on it - but with Russian Wood & Soviet Bakelite mag - even with a new U.S. Made Trigger Group - it constitutes a FELONY Violation of 18 USC 44 Section 922(r) with Soviet Wood & a Soviet Bakelite magazine !!!

Above (in the 3 pictures) is a Bulgarian SA-93 that originally sold for around $379 dollars back in 1993 & 94 when they were imported with wood thumbhole stocks that scammers like the one above will try to turn into what the seller hopes buyers will think is a 'Pre-Ban' style Milled AK-47 for $1500 by welding on a rear lower tang to hold the pre-ban buttstock - that saavy AK shoppers can do for themselves for a WHOLE LOT LESS $$$

   Also, on the other end of the AK spectrum - pictured below is a Russian Saiga 'IZ series' AK - that we constantly hear kids & others say, "I saw a 'Real' Russian AK-47 for $350 OR $400 or so..."

   Oh really !!!

   Unfortunately they're unable to accurately compare Sporter AK's like the Saiga IZ series (pictured below) to realize that after they convert the non-pistol Grip Saiga IZ AK-47 (pictured below) to have a standard Pistol Grip & standard or folding stock AK-47 buttstock & pistol grip (over $100 in most cases - which then makes their $350 bargain cost over $450...) - they'll still have a non-standard AK-47 that WON'T ACCEPT Standard AK-47 Mags/clips or drums - as special Surefire 30 round Mags COST OVER $40 a piece to fit in the Saiga IZ series AK-47 pictured below !!!

Underside of 'SCREWED-Up' U.S. Import-Modified Saiga IZ Series AK-47 !!!

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Below is an Older "Kalashnikov USA" Russian AK-103 Style Saiga IMPORT when Kalashikov USA was located in Port St. Lucie, Florida - after they were in New Port Richie & Kansas City, Mo. too...

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Which brings us to WHY STILL in 2011 - imported Chinese MAK-90 AK-47's like the Milled Receiver MAK-90 (pictured below) 

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or Stamped-Receiver NHM-90 Rifles (pictured above) or stamped-receiver Chinese MAK-90 rifles (pictured below) offer the BEST Values in AK-47's - as Chinese MAK-90 Rifles offer 'Double-hook Trigger & Hammer Groups (see picture below) and 50% thicker 1.5mm receivers than the thinner 1mm receivers used on Romanian AK-47's that only have 'Single-Hook' trigger groups - as Chinese triggers feel much better when shooting - due to the 'Double-Hook' hammers also used in Milled Bulgarian AK-47's - like the SA-93, SLR-95, SLR-96, SLR-100H, SA-M7 & SAS-7 Rifles.

for the U.S. Retail AK-47 Gun Market today -

MAK-90s feature smooth "double-hook" fire-control-groups, rather than more common modern "single-hook" triggers in Romanian & other Warsaw Pact AKM (stamped) AK-47 Rifles.

Are you LQQKING for RPK Stocks like those seen on this Russian RPK Rifle above - if so - Call (720) 940-1458 for more info or stay tuned !!!

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Arsenal USA Milled-Receiver SA-M7 (sometimes called a 'SAM-7') AK-47 NOW SOLD for up to or over $1500 in 2011 !!!

Here's some comments on the new Century Arms model 'M-74' - a so-called Bulgarian AK-74's being offered for under $400 wholesale:

The Bad:
Front sight has the "Century Arms Canted Sight"
Two rivets on trigger guard are not fully seated
One rivet on trunion is a bit suspect
Cleaning rod is probably for 7.62 rifle (button head won't fit bore)
Numbers don't match...anything
Bore does not appear to be chromed
The lower hand guard looks like it was dremeled to fit
The lower hand guard retainer is ridiculously tight

The Good:
Otherwise fit and finish is pretty good
Has a scope rail
The muzzle device is removable (but looks crude)

The Odd:
The cleaning kit looks like it's a G3 kit. That's okay. I needed one of those any way.
The front trunion has no serial number (NOS? Or US made?)

Hello, until we complete this Rifles page with pictures of the various AK-47 variants - here's some information you might find helpful.

 First of all - BUYERS are advised that the BEST AK-47 DEALS for $500 or less - are usually foreign-made AK-47 variants (SLR-95, MAK-90, SA-85M, etc) which came into the U.S. with ugly thumbhole stocks that can easily be changed out per 18 USC 44 Section 922r).

   But the better-made foreign AK's (sorry 'buy USA' types - but the AK-47 is a foreign-born weapon & the best ones - FOR THE MONEY - are made in Foreign Arsenals with actual ComBloc Military backgrounds!) some are LAZY & think they can urged to STAY AWAY from the Vermont 'creation' of Century Arms - the junk of the current retail AK-47's OFFERED in the U.S. retail market - the very 'questionable' Romanian WASR-10 AK-47 variants - of which MORE INFO can be found on discussion threads via Google or Bing searches - or on videos about the WASR-10 on YouTube!

   Otherwise - STAY TUNED as our reviews of GOOD AK-47 variants to BUY is expanded on www.ak47world.com

   In the meantime www.ak47world.com advises what AK-47's to buy & which ones ARE NOT RECOMMENDED!

  Guns like the Romanian WASR-10 are modified IN VERMONT to meet current U.S. import restrictions - as SOME have problems accepting military-issue drums & magazines (clips) due to poor workmanship by Century's workers & are BAD DEALS compared to better foreign-built AK-47 variants - LIKE the 'REAL' Bulgarian SA-93, SLR-95, SLR-96, Chinese MAK-90, NHM-90, NHM-91 & Hungarian (F.E.G.) SA-85M!

  Foreign-built AK-47 variants with thumbhole stocks - are MUCH EASIER to change the stocks on than to deal with a poorly-built AK-47's - like WASR-10's, GP-75's, AMD-65's & parts kit Polish AK's out there - as they lack the quality of AK-47's built in foreign arsenals where real military AK-47's are made to military specifications! 

    The best thumbhole DEALS are AK-47's like the Bulgarian SA-93, SLR-95 or SLR-96 models, or Chinese-built Norinco MAK-90, NHM-90, NHM-91 and MAK-91 AK-47 variants, and Hungarian SA-85M models - that are no longer imported.

   Also, these 100% foreign military arsenal-built 'Quality' AK's CANNOT be ordered anymore by dealers from their DISTRIBUTORS - because Bill Clinton's November 1997 Executive Order ('XO') forbid the import of these better foreign-built AK's that accept standard HIGH-CAPACITY AK-47 magazines!

Unless someone just wants to WASTE $$$ on a bayonet lug or flash-hider - the best Semi-Auto AK-47 variants ever imported into the U.S. are these foreign arsenal built AK-47's:

    1. Bulgarian SA-93, SLR-95, and SLR-96

    2. Chinese Norinco MAK-90/NHM-90/NHM-91/MAK-91

    3. The Hungarian SA-85M

ALL of which represent a MUCH BETTER VALUE than a lesser-quality Romanian WASR-10, Century Arms GP-75, Century Yugo M70AB, Saiga or VEPR Russian-made AK-47 Rifles!

 

    While you can still put folding stocks on thumbhole AK's mentioned above - if you replace the thumbhole stock - you must then add 5 U.S. made 922(r) compliant parts - like a Tapco mag & U.S. grip & forearms.

   The important thing here - is that the build-quality of foreign-built AK's usually far surpasses any AK's put together today in the U.S. - unless you spend a $1,000 for a Kreb's Custom Russian-style AK-47 or spend $900 or more for a Bulgarian SLR-107FR  or Legion SGL-20 from the custom shop of Izhmash of Russia!

   
    So, if you'd rather just get a GOOD $500 to $600 ak-47 -  you'll have to look around for AK-47 variants that represent GOOD VALUE- as there's a lot of dealers who looking out for their PROFITS - at your expense - as they sell tons of low-quality Romanian WASR-10 or GP-75 AK's - while companies like Lancaster Consulting or Red Jacket Arms want BIG BUCKS for their better-built AK's - that OLDER - 'No Longer-Imported' Chinese MAK-90's & Bulgarian SLR-95's  will usually surpass for FAR LESS $$$ - but without the 'Drugstore Commando' BAYONET LUGS - that most people WILL NEVER USE anyway!

    But if no good AK's for $500 to $600 AK's can be found, the best AK-47s that www.AK47world.com recommends - are these models which used to sell for $500 or so:

  1. Bulgarian SLR-95; SLR-96 & SA-93 (all milled-receivers - EXCELLENT GUNS!)

  2.  Chinese MAK-90 rifles - both stamped and milled receiver models (if you look hard enough) can be found as well as the stamped military-style NHM-90 rifles.
 
3.  Chinese RPK Sporters NMH-91 (stamped) & milled MAK-91 
 
4.  Hungarian SA-85M by F.E.G.
 
5. Maadi ARM, RPM & RML models from Egypt, but stay away from Maadi MISR-90 & MISR-10 models...)
 
6. Romanian Intrac MK-1, Romak-1 or "WUM-1" models (only imported in 1997) NOT Romanian WASR-10 and some SAR-1 models - which are at their best - MARGINALLY OK' as quality varies alot with Romanian rifles! 

FIRST OFF, Romanian FPK/PSL (Romak-3) rifles - which at usually under $800 & REPRESENT A GOOD BUY for a 1000 yd. affordable DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle) that's MUCH CHEAPER to SHOOT than any M-14 or AR-10, etc. - as .308 AMMO is close to .75 cents a round - compared to .25 cents or lower for the LARGER Soviet 7.62 x 54R round used by PSL's & SVD (real Dragunov)!

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WARNING: WHILE MAK-90 RIFLES ARE USUALLY THE RIFLE WE RECOMMEND as "The Best ENTRY-LEVEL/low-priced AK-47 variant" for sale in America today...

   Just remember to STAY AWAY from MAK-90 rifles imported by the importer "Le Banu" of upstate New York, (but NOT ALL MAK-90 Rifles, as some will incorrectly infer), that are marked with 3 position fire-control selector markings (sometimes in Chinese characters, other times with the letters "L and D" for the 3 positions on the right side of the receiver), as the ATF classifies these as "ILLEGAL MACHINE GUN RECEIVERS" with, or without the receiver being drilled for a 3rd axis pin!

   Also, until the ATF stops trying to keep this information 'TOP SECRET' as a 'selective enforcement tool' - seemingly an ATF trademark(?) & posts this information on its website.

    Remember, the ATF fully realizes that if they take your rifle, your attorney fees will easily cost you thousands of dollars & outweigh the cost of your AK-47, so BE CAREFUL when buying any AK-47 variant for evidence of a 3 position receiver (as seen in the photos below) or an AK variant that upon inspection appears to have parts that you've not seen in other semi-auto AK-47 variants, or else send pictures of the rifle to sales@ak47world.com until we can tell you what we see in your pictures!

ILLEGAL Machine Gun Receiver MAK-90 with 3 position Receiver = FELONY !!!

If you're buying a MAK-90, beware of getting one with a "third-hole axis pin" There are still a few MAK-90s out there that are considered "machine guns" by BATFE. (Sometimes imported by LABANU INC, Ronkonkoma, NY) These Norinco receivers have the "third hole" for the auto sear drilled through the receiver just above the mag release. This will look like a second flattened rivet/screw right above the mag release. The rivet will go right through the receiver, and be riveted on both sides. If there are two rivets right next to each other above the mag release, don't buy it. Do not confuse the third hole with the hammer stop, which is a convex rivet. The auto-sear rivet is flat. If you come across such a MAK-90, do NOT buy it!

Also, there are some Maadi ARM rifles out there with what the ATF terms as an 'Illegal Machinegun Receiver", as well as some of the early CLAYCO AK-47 imports, that will be marked with the words, "Modifications to this Rifle are Unsafe & Illegal", again whether or not the 3rd axis pin hole is drilled in the receiver.

Remember, the ATF fully realizes that if they take your rifle, your attorney fees will easily outweigh the cost of the rifle, so BE CAREFUL when buying some of these imports, or send pictures of the rifle to sales@ak47world.com until we post some pictures of these rifles!

While the market is currently flooded with low-price so-called Romanian AK-47's, like the WASR-10 & SAR-1 AKM variants, a SMART AK-47 buyer would be wiser to buy an AK-47 variant made in a foreign arsenal, unless that buyer is prepared to spend more money for one of the better-made U.S. assembled AK-47 variants from Arsenal USA, or Krebs Kustoms, Legion SGL-20 Rifles or Bulgarian variants from either Arsenal of Bulgaria or the U.S. Arsenal Inc. & maybe a Tennessee Guns AK-47 variant!

Note: not all SAR-1 variants are bad, but far too many have problems than we've seen with Norinco type 56 stamped AK-47 variants, like the MAK-90, NHM-90, and Chinese RPK Sporter known as the NHM-91, and why U.S.N. SEAL TEAMS & the Finnish Defence Force (FDF) of FINLAND, as well as Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, the Northern Alliance, & Bill Clinton's drug-smuggling 'friends' at the Kosovo Liberation Front' also CHOSE NORINCO stamped type 56 AKM rifles!

Through the years of handling & firing AK-47 variants, we've found out quickly what AK's have problems, and what AK's do not. (like the good Maadi ARM & RPM rifles, as compared to the bad Maadi rifles, like the MISR-90 and certain batches of Romanian/U.S. modified S.A.R./WASR-10 series rifles)

The Navy Seals and the Military Defense Council of Finland, both selected Norinco of China to supply Chinese type 56 AK-47 rifles, which are virtually identical (except for select-fire components) to the Norinco MAK-90, & without the MAK-90's thumbhole stock).

THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING, as the GALIL AK's, F.E.G.'s from Hungary, Arsenal of Bulgaria, and Russian AK's were all tested against the Chinese Norinco, and the Norinco came out on top as the most rugged, and best value DUE TO THE USE OF THICKER 1.5MM STAMPED CHINESE RECEIVERS, DOUBLE-HOOK TRIGGERS FOR SMOOTHER TRIGGER-PULL, and thicker Chinese barrels, despite the fact that it would have been easier for Finland and the U. S. Navy Seals to buy AK-47 variants from other Eastern European, or Russian sources.

Finally, Norinco of China, Zastava of Yugoslavia, and Valmet/Sako of Finland all use at least 1.5mm steel for their stamped receivers on their AK variants, thus eliminating the need for "mickey-mouse" anti-trip devices (band-aid that does not solve the problem of too thin receivers) found in the trigger groups of thinner 1mm steel receivers of Warsaw-Pact AKM's.

AKM is the Russian term of: Avtomat Kalashnikova Modernizya , which means modernized AK-47, referring to the stamped AKM versus the milled AK-47 of 1947.

Warsaw-Pact AKM's include: Soviet/Russian mfg.,F.E.G. of Hungary (SA-85's, etc.), and Romanian W.U.M.-1's, W.U.M.-2's, S.A.R.1, S.A.R.2, S.A.R. 3's, as well as Maadi AKM's, RML, RPM, and the MISR-90.

What does receiver thickness and the lack of "mickey-mouse" anti-trip device that only complicates your trigger group, mean to AKM performance???

Simple, if you only fire your thinner receiver AKM variants lightly, you usually won't have any problems.

But if you need more out of your AK, like sustained fire/rapid fire, like with 75, or 100 round drums, or with other "extreme situations", the thicker 1.5mm stamped receivers found in Norinco, Valmet/Sako, and Zastava/Serbian rifles are more durable.

     This means the thicker 1.5mm receiver AK's are a lot less likely to experience malfunctions like the thinner 1mm receiver AK's do, when the thicker receiver Chinese, Yugoslavian, or Valmet's get hot under rapid fire, sustained-fire situations, because there's less "fatigue", thus "flex" & jams, in the thicker 1.5mm steel receivers, than in the thinner-walled receivers of the Warsaw-Pact AKM-type rifles.

   For more info, you can call us at either phone # (786) 261-9273 or (720) 940-1458 and STAY TUNED  for more info on this page to come soon!

Finally, while many would never think that a pellet/bb gun would ever earn them a FELONY - THINK AGAIN - as the ATF has declared certain models of Russian AK-74 style Izhmash/Baikal BB/Pellet Guns as "ILLEGAL MACHINEGUN RECEIVERS" - that are marked as 'Junker' or 'Yunker' on their receivers!

  This silly "Once a Machinegun - ALWAYS a MACHINEGUN" ruling by the ATF ignores the fact that these former Izhmash manufactured AK-74's have had their trigger groups fully removed, and replaced with a large hole cut in bottom of the receiver, which then accepts a Baikal BB/Pellet pistol, that then sits inside the former AK-74's receiver and fires its BB's and Pellets through what is an enlarged hollow cleaning rod, as the rifle's original barrel is plugged to prevent 'projectiles' from passing through the barrel!

While the market is currently flooded with low-price so-called Romanian AK-47's, like the WASR-10 & SAR-1 AKM variants, a SMART AK-47 buyer would be wiser to buy an AK-47 variant made in a foreign arsenal, unless that buyer is prepared to spend more money for one of the better-made foreign AK or one of the better-made U.S. assembled AK-47 variants from Arsenal USA, or Krebs Kustoms, Legion SGL-20 Rifles or Bulgarian variants from either Arsenal of Bulgaria or the U.S. Arsenal Inc. & maybe a Tennessee Guns AK-47 variant!

Note: not all SAR-1 variants are bad, but far too many have problems than we've seen with Norinco type 56 stamped AK-47 variants, like the MAK-90, NHM-90, and Chinese RPK Sporter known as the NHM-91, and why U.S.N. SEAL TEAMS & the Finnish Defence Force (FDF) of FINLAND, as well as Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, the Northern Alliance, & Bill Clinton's drug-smuggling 'friends' at the Kosovo Liberation Front' also CHOSE NORINCO stamped type 56 AKM rifles!

Through the years of handling & firing AK-47 variants, we've found out quickly what AK's have problems, and what AK's do not. (like the good Maadi ARM & RPM rifles, as compared to the bad Maadi rifles, like the MISR-90 and certain batches of Romanian/U.S. modified S.A.R./WASR-10 series rifles)

The Navy Seals and the Military Defense Council of Finland, both selected Norinco of China to supply Chinese type 56 AK-47 rifles, which are virtually identical (except for select-fire components) to the Norinco MAK-90, & without the MAK-90's thumbhole stock).

THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING, as the GALIL AK's, F.E.G.'s from Hungary, Arsenal of Bulgaria, and Russian AK's were all tested against the Chinese Norinco, and the Norinco came out on top as the most rugged, and best value DUE TO THE USE OF THICKER 1.5MM STAMPED CHINESE RECEIVERS, DOUBLE-HOOK TRIGGERS FOR SMOOTHER TRIGGER-PULL, and thicker Chinese barrels, despite the fact that it would have been easier for Finland and the U. S. Navy Seals to buy AK-47 variants from other Eastern European, or Russian sources.

Finally, Norinco of China, Zastava of Yugoslavia, and Valmet/Sako of Finland all use at least 1.5mm steel for their stamped receivers on their AK variants, thus eliminating the need for "mickey-mouse" anti-trip devices (band-aid that does not solve the problem of too thin receivers) found in the trigger groups of thinner 1mm steel receivers of Warsaw-Pact AKM's.

AKM is the Russian term of: Avtomat Kalashnikova Modernizya , which means modernized AK-47, referring to the stamped AKM versus the milled AK-47 of 1947.

Warsaw-Pact AKM's include: Soviet/Russian mfg.,F.E.G. of Hungary (SA-85's, etc.), and Romanian W.U.M.-1's, W.U.M.-2's, S.A.R.1, S.A.R.2, S.A.R. 3's, as well as Maadi AKM's, RML, RPM, and the MISR-90.

What does receiver thickness and the lack of "mickey-mouse" anti-trip device that only complicates your trigger group, mean to AKM performance???

Simple, if you only fire your thinner receiver AKM variants lightly, you usually won't have any problems.

But if you need more out of your AK, like sustained fire/rapid fire, like with 75, or 100 round drums, or with other "extreme situations", the thicker 1.5mm stamped receivers found in Norinco, Valmet/Sako, and Zastava/Serbian rifles are more durable.

This means the thicker 1.5mm receiver AK's are a lot less likely to experience malfunctions like the thinner 1mm receiver AK's do, when the thicker receiver Chinese, Yugoslavian, or Valmet's get hot under rapid fire, sustained-fire situations, because there's less "fatigue", thus "flex" & jams, in the thicker 1.5mm steel receivers, than in the thinner-walled receivers of the Warsaw-Pact AKM-type rifles.

This Just in - U.S. Troops are Dying in Afghanistan - due to their Pathetic M-4 & M-16 Rifles JAMMING in Firefights!!!

  And even though the U.S. Military has No Money to replace the M-16 & M-4 - with the Heckler & Koch XM-8 or G-36 - WHY NOT Shoot the 'Bad Guys' & pick-up their better-working AK-47's & PKM's - (that would of course be too cost effective & make too much sense for U.S. Commanders)

 

M-4/M-16 Fail US troops during Afghan firefight

As U.S. Troops DIE in Afghanistan Due to PATHETIC M-4 & M-16's Jamming in Firefights against AK-47's !!!

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WASHINGTON – In the chaos of an early morning assault on a remote U.S. outpost in eastern Afghanistan, Staff Sgt. Erich Phillips' M4 carbine quit firing as militant forces surrounded the base. The machine gun he grabbed after tossing the rifle aside didn't work either.

When the battle in the small village of Wanat ended, nine U.S. soldiers lay dead and 27 more were wounded. A detailed study of the attack by a military historian found that weapons failed repeatedly at a "critical moment" during the firefight on July 13, 2008, putting the outnumbered American troops at risk of being overrun by nearly 200 insurgents.

Which raises the question: Eight years into the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan, do U.S. armed forces have the best guns money can buy?

Despite the military's insistence that they do, a small but vocal number of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq has complained that the standard-issue M4 rifles need too much maintenance and jam at the worst possible times.

A week ago, eight U.S. troops were killed at a base near Kamdesh, a town near Wanat. There's no immediate evidence of weapons failures at Kamdesh, but the circumstances were eerily similar to the Wanat battle: insurgents stormed an isolated stronghold manned by American forces stretched thin by the demands of war.

Army Col. Wayne Shanks, a military spokesman in Afghanistan, said a review of the battle at Kamdesh is under way. "It is too early to make any assumptions regarding what did or didn't work correctly," he said.

Complaints about the weapons the troops carry, especially the M4, aren't new. Army officials say that when properly cleaned and maintained, the M4 is a quality weapon that can pump out more than 3,000 rounds before any failures occur.

The M4 is a shorter, lighter version of the M16, which made its debut during the Vietnam war. Roughly 500,000 M4s are in service, making it the rifle troops on the front lines trust with their lives.

Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a leading critic of the M4, said Thursday the Army needs to move quickly to acquire a combat rifle suited for the extreme conditions U.S. troops are fighting in.

U.S. special operations forces, with their own acquisition budget and the latitude to buy gear the other military branches can't, already are replacing their M4s with a new rifle.

"The M4 has served us well but it's not as good as it needs to be," Coburn said.

Battlefield surveys show that nearly 90 percent of soldiers are satisfied with their M4s, according to Brig. Gen. Peter Fuller, head of the Army office that buys soldier gear. Still, the rifle is continually being improved to make it even more reliable and lethal.

Fuller said he's received no official reports of flawed weapons performance at Wanat. "Until it showed up in the news, I was surprised to hear about all this," he said.

The study by Douglas Cubbison of the Army Combat Studies Institute at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., hasn't been publicly released. Copies of the study have been leaked to news organizations and are circulating on the Internet.

Cubbison's study is based on an earlier Army investigation and interviews with soldiers who survived the attack at Wanat. He describes a well-coordinated attack by a highly skilled enemy that unleashed a withering barrage with AK-47 automatic rifles and rocket-propelled grenades.

The soldiers said their weapons were meticulously cared for and routinely inspected by commanders. But still the weapons had breakdowns, especially when the rifles were on full automatic, which allows hundreds of bullets to be fired a minute.

The platoon-sized unit of U.S. soldiers and about two dozen Afghan troops was shooting back with such intensity the barrels on their weapons turned white hot. The high rate of fire appears to have put a number of weapons out of commission, even though the guns are tested and built to operate in extreme conditions.

Cpl. Jonathan Ayers and Spc. Chris McKaig were firing their M4s from a position the soldiers called the "Crow's Nest." The pair would pop up together from cover, fire half a dozen rounds and then drop back down.

On one of these trips up, Ayers was killed instantly by an enemy round. McKaig soon had problems with his M4, which carries a 30-round magazine.

"My weapon was overheating," McKaig said, according to Cubbison's report. "I had shot about 12 magazines by this point already and it had only been about a half hour or so into the fight. I couldn't charge my weapon and put another round in because it was too hot, so I got mad and threw my weapon down."

The soldiers also had trouble with their M249 machine guns, a larger weapon than the M4 that can shoot up to 750 rounds per minute.

Cpl. Jason Bogar fired approximately 600 rounds from his M-249 before the weapon overheated and jammed the weapon.

Bogar was killed during the firefight, but no one saw how he died, according to the report.

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